Thank you; that was really interesting. I don't know anything about her personal life at all so I have no idea if the theory is right. I was thinking about getting a biography and now definitely will.Courtenay wrote:Yes, that's the meaning... well, at least someone does, then!burlingtonbertram wrote: I note that Mr Goon's full name is Theophilus Goon. If I remember my bible-study rightly, Theophilus translates as “Beloved of God”, from the Koine (common) Greek. If true this suggests that God truly does love everybody....even Mr Goon.
There was a very interesting article that one contributor to these forums wrote a few years ago, putting forward the argument that Goon was based to a great extent on Enid Blyton's first husband Hugh Pollock, whose relationship with Enid fell apart largely due to his drinking problems. It's not a theory that everyone will necessarily find convincing, but it's well set out and good food for thought! There's a link to the article in this thread: http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/foru ... 8&p=172614" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Always a good idea for a writer to explain consequences rather than just moralising.Anita Bensoussane wrote:Fatty wonders whether to light the pipe and and try smoking it to amuse Bets, who is watching (it is Missing Necklace and he's disguised as the old man who sits on the bench). However, he decides not to because he has already tried smoking it privately and it made him feel sick!
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Absolutely! Although I'd wager the scene has been changed or cut in the modern 'updated' editions.
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I read the Mystery of the Pantomime Cat last night; having jumped from book 2 to book 7. I bought a pre-decimal Armada book; I can't tell the exact date because one of the front-papers is missing. The cover and text illustrations are by Charles Stewart. The cover is quite nice although the Pantomime Cat looks a bit peculiar.
The series has definitely changed a little. At the start, the Five (and dog) perpetrate an ill-thought out plan to create a false mystery for locum policeman Pippin.
Mr Goon has gone from being obnoxious and intolerant to being an out and out viscous bully; even forcing confessions from innocent parties.
Fatty is now very much the leader of the group, even if they still put him down if he boasts too much.
I have to say that if Mr Pippin reflects the calibre of the police around there, then I don't hold up a lot of hope for the community.
I liked the book but there was something just a little lacking in comparison to the first two. So, it's a competent 7/10 for me.
The series has definitely changed a little. At the start, the Five (and dog) perpetrate an ill-thought out plan to create a false mystery for locum policeman Pippin.
Mr Goon has gone from being obnoxious and intolerant to being an out and out viscous bully; even forcing confessions from innocent parties.
Fatty is now very much the leader of the group, even if they still put him down if he boasts too much.
I have to say that if Mr Pippin reflects the calibre of the police around there, then I don't hold up a lot of hope for the community.
I liked the book but there was something just a little lacking in comparison to the first two. So, it's a competent 7/10 for me.
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I voted for The Mystery of the Invisible Thief because it is a real whodunit, unlike some other books in this series. The Mystery of the Pantomime Cat came close, though, because of its unexpected twist in the last few chapters.
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I agree about these two - two of my three faves - the other being 'Strange Messages'.
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Yes, Robert, I think the Strange Messages is one of the good FFO books. I think in that book Ern really comes to the fore, which is nice for a change - in the Hidden House, for example, Ern was treated slightly unfairly, with them immediately deciding that he is awful.
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To be fair, Hidden House is the book where we first meet Ern and as Goon's nephew he's off to a bad start as far as impressing the Find-Outers. They do warm to him as the story progresses, however, and in the end he becomes quite a hero (albeit a reluctant one!) It is good to meet him again in subsequent books.
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I have to agree with you there, and he was quite rude to them at the beginning of the book (to be fair, they thought he was Fatty in disguise, and shouted after him "Fatty, we know it's you", and anyone would be annoyed at being called Fatty by random kids)
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Despite the children getting off to a bad start, the Find-Outers did some things which they didn't consider the consequences (for Ern) first in The Mystery of the Hidden House. For instance when Fatty dressed up as Ern to go and interview Mr Holland. It struck me as if the children were taking advantage of him. However innocent this could seem, the children just didn't consider Ern's position. ie: What happens if they bump into Mr Goon? Which did happen!!
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I think this is the reason I don't like 'Hidden House' very much. The best character is Ern...but the way he's treated is unfair and to be honest rather rude and condescending...I also feel the plot is a bit weak...don't like the underground garage thing - seems a bit far fetched to me. I'm really pleased that Ern had more chances to shine in other books, because he was a really likeable character.
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Well you should know, then!Poppy wrote:What happens if they bump into Mr Goon? Which did happen!!
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"CLEAR ORF".Poppy wrote:What happens if they bump into Mr Goon? Which did happen!!
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Well, yes, but why Fatty didn't consider this beforehand, I really don't know.Moonraker wrote:Well you should know, then!
I didn't mind the undergound garage thing, Robert: it was a bit different to the recurring theme of robberies in this series (though it did cover that, briefly, too). But like you say, it was the children's unfair treatment of Ern.
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I don't think an underground garage is any more far fetched than a certain mountain in Wales.....
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