One thing I find really interesting about this - and maybe a few people from round the Midlands might back me up - or otherwise! - but where I come from, the posher types (like me, lol!!) tend to pronounce it 'skon' and the real Brummy types would say 'scown' (to rhyme with 'cone' - try saying 'scown' in a Brummie accent and you'll see what I mean! So to me, 'scown' tends to be the way more common people pronounce it - at least in the midlands!pete9012S wrote:I've always pronounced it like Eddie. But Julie's posher pronunciation is ok too.
It has caused a teeny weeny bit of controversy:
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013 ... say-scone/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;How do you pronounce scone?
If you’re ever looking to liven up a tea party with some fully-fledged warfare, then can I suggest that you try something subtler than putting salt in the sugar bowl or pushing someone down the stairs? Simply point to the curranty baked goods on the Cath Kidston three-tiered cake stand, and ask: “Scone or scone?”
That distinction doesn’t really work on paper, of course. But imagine that the first ‘scone’ rhymes with ‘cone’, and the second ‘scone’ rhymes with ‘con’.
– and it has proved one of our most popular polls, with thousands of you voting. The clear winner, in the end, was pronouncing ‘scone’ to rhyme with . . . ‘cone’!
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Which is why I said that about North South divide, Robert. Meaning myself from the north.Rob Houghton wrote:But aren't you originally from the north?
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Ah - its just I associate 'skon' with being from up north and 'scown' (to rhyme with cone) from the south! I guess that proves, its different all over!
As my family are from Lancashire, Derbyshire, Sheffield and North Wales, I presumed 'skon' must be a northern thing, lol!
As my family are from Lancashire, Derbyshire, Sheffield and North Wales, I presumed 'skon' must be a northern thing, lol!
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Sing on, sing on, and when the sun is gone
I'll warm me with your echoes
through the night.'
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"Arr!"
The posh part of the North,Rob.
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Obviously not from where I come from! I only ever heard the word scone. I thought everyone used to say that, until I got in the outside world.
Mind you we didn't eat many scones they were for the 'posh' folks!
Mind you we didn't eat many scones they were for the 'posh' folks!
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Surely you occasionally enjoyed a bit of crumpet though Julie?
A hot buttered crumpet - or is it a pikelet???
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Sixret, in answer to your question, I don't think anyone eats scones every day. They are not neccessarily a treat, either, just a change from the usual loaf of bread. Some people (like me) don't like cream (of any kind), it doesn't agree with me. So putting it on a scone would ruin it. I like mine buttered, sometimes toasted.
Scones do taste nice. They have quite a close texture and can be crumbly.
On the subject of pronunciation, do people in Kuala Lumpur pronounce words in Malay differently to, say, Kelantan and Trengganu, which were once under the suzerainty of Thailand?
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Scones do taste nice. They have quite a close texture and can be crumbly.
On the subject of pronunciation, do people in Kuala Lumpur pronounce words in Malay differently to, say, Kelantan and Trengganu, which were once under the suzerainty of Thailand?
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Yes, my grandma used to do us hot buttered crumpet, Pete.
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Yeah - that's another one!! My mom always called them 'pikelets'pete9012S wrote:Surely you occasionally enjoyed a bit of crumpet though Julie?
A hot buttered crumpet - or is it a pikelet???
I can remember being quite shocked (not so long ago, either - maybe about ten or twelve years ago) to discover that I had in fact been eating 'crumpets' all along! I thought 'crumpets' were an entirely different thing to 'pikelets' and didn't think I'd ever actually eaten a crumpet until someone argued that what I was calling a 'pikelet' was really a crumpet!!
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Julie2owlsdene wrote: Obviously not from where I come from! I only ever heard the word scone. I thought everyone used to say that, until I got in the outside world.
Mind you we didn't eat many scones they were for the 'posh' folks!
My 'Nana' in North Wales always made her own scones (skons as she pronounced it!) and they were delicious - always still warm from the oven with lots of butter and jam! They were slightly cruncy on the outside and meltingly soft inside. Best 'skons' I've ever tasted.
My Nana was born in Kent, but her parents moved to North Wales when she was a baby. I don't think they were particularly posh - although her father was chauffeur to 'Mr Hartley the jam king!' as my Nana always called him.
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I've never heard crumpets being called pikelet before, that's a new one on me.
I remember when we first moved down here, I asked for a balmcake, and no one had heard of one before, and asked me what it was. I said it's a bap!
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Well, where I come from, pikelets are small pancakes, crumpets are crumpets, and scone rhymes with con. I couldn't say for sure that all Australians pronounce it that way — even though we don't have regional dialects as such, there are still occasional variations — but everyone in my family pronounces it that way. Mind you, we are all from Melbourne, so that doesn't say much about the rest of the country...
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There is a difference by the look of it. http://www.villagebakery.co.uk/blog/bak ... ifference/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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So did mine as well as all my West Midland relatives. They always called them pikelets. It wasn't until I moved south that I heard people calling them crumpets.Rob Houghton wrote: Yeah - that's another one!! My mom always called them 'pikelets'
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Learn something new every day, I'd never heard of pikelets before!, but enjoy crumpets toasted on a fork over the fire with lashings of butter! We pronounce scone to rhyme with 'long', somehow rhyming with 'own' just sounds wrong, as always its what you get used to!
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