Fiona1986 wrote:Well, gotten can be used sometimes. Ill-gotten gains springs to mind. Just as long as you don't start using jamp or should of, then we're all good
Ill-gotten yes but I've seen it used as 'I've gotten that phone' or 'we have gotten a new car' which doesn't sound right at all, at least to my ears. Jamp that is on the same line of badness as 'have went'. Imagine reading a FF where 'George has gotten her boat so the five have went to Kirrin Island for the day'
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I'm just an old fashioned girl with an old fashioned mind
Not sophisticated, I'm the sweet and simple kind
I want an old fashioned house, with an old fashioned fence
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IceMaiden wrote:Ill-gotten yes but I've seen it used as 'I've gotten that phone' or 'we have gotten a new car' which doesn't sound right at all, at least to my ears.
For the most part, "have gotten" fell out of use centuries ago in Britain. However, I think it has survived in Ireland (or at least in some areas) though I'm not sure whether it's common in both Northern and Southern Ireland.
"Heyho for a starry night and a heathery bed!" - Jack, The Secret Island.
"There is no bond like the bond of having read and liked the same books."
- E. Nesbit, The Wonderful Garden.
I was always told (by my parents) that "only Americans say 'gotten'." I think it's an older usage that has fallen out of favour on this side of the Atlantic (and in Australia) but not the other.
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It was a nuisance. An adventure was one thing - but an adventure without anything to eat was quite another thing. That wouldn't do at all. (The Valley of Adventure)
Well it's not a book, and I didn't buy it, but today a package arrived from a friend containing the TV version of the Famous Five card game. It looks in great condition.I'm thrilled
The Journal was also lying on the mat (or should that be laying?) so a good day all round.
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The Journal was also lying on the mat (or should that be laying?) so a good day all round.
Lying. Laying is transitive only (as in, laying a carpet or laying an egg).
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It was a nuisance. An adventure was one thing - but an adventure without anything to eat was quite another thing. That wouldn't do at all. (The Valley of Adventure)
Jamp is a horrible and wrong past-tense of jump, mainly used by kids who don't know better. "I jamp over the puddle." Possibly caused by them going 'I run, I ran, I jump, I jamp.'
"It's the ash! It's falling!" yelled Julian, almost startling Dick out of his wits...
"Listen to its terrible groans and creaks!" yelled Julian, almost beside himself with impatience.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a revolting Scottish thing!
"It's the ash! It's falling!" yelled Julian, almost startling Dick out of his wits...
"Listen to its terrible groans and creaks!" yelled Julian, almost beside himself with impatience.
Never heard of "jamp", but the usual one with kids in Australia is "brang" instead of "brought". As in the time I once heard of when a boy, for show and tell, declared "I bringed a new book to school." "Now class," said the teacher, "what word should Johnny have used there?" And the entire class chorused, "Brang!!"
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It was a nuisance. An adventure was one thing - but an adventure without anything to eat was quite another thing. That wouldn't do at all. (The Valley of Adventure)
"It's the ash! It's falling!" yelled Julian, almost startling Dick out of his wits...
"Listen to its terrible groans and creaks!" yelled Julian, almost beside himself with impatience.
that is on the same line of badness as 'have went'. Imagine reading a FF where 'George has gotten her boat so the five have went to Kirrin Island for the day' 
