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Well, as I said (or laughed, or grinned), Enid got away with it all the time... 8)
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Enid was a successful, writer, Courtenay, using a few publishers, these days, it's a different kettle of fish hoping to publish, which is why so many self publish.

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I would say 'to thine own self be true' - do what feels right to YOU - it's your writing, and if it flows well, that's all that really matters. If the ideas are good and the publisher/agent enjoys what you've written, it won't matter how you attribute speech, as long as it makes sense - and from what I've seen of your writing, it does, and it flows well.
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Sound advice from a fellow writer, thanks, Rob. I'll take your advice :)

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I meant, you could always have used that argument when Keith tried to "correct" your use of those words — that Enid did that all the time and you were deliberately imitating her style. 8)
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Mind you, I've been rejected many times by publishers in the past - but it's nearly always because they are looking for specific things, not due to grammatical errors - unless of course they are glaring. For example, I had a short story published in 'The People's Friend' but the next two I sent were rejected. I think perseverance is the key, as well as just hitting the right reader/agent at the right moment! Good luck! :-D
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At least you can say you are published, Rob. These days a publisher won't accept unsolicited scripts, where as an agent will at least read the first three chapters, before they pop it into the 'slush' bin! :lol:

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Tony will accept unsolicited scripts for the Journal, won't he, though? :wink: Just about all of us here in this conversation have been published there. Even I have!
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Julie2owlsdene wrote: These days a publisher won't accept unsolicited scripts, where as an agent will at least read the first three chapters, before they pop it into the 'slush' bin! :lol:

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:-( That's bad news. Last time I sent chapters to a publisher was maybe six years ago, and many publishers still accepted unsolicited manuscripts then. :-( As you say, at least an agent will read what they are sent - although I guess that might be harder to get into than with a publisher. I'll have to try a few of mine again sometime soon! :-)
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Much of it is done on line too, Rob. You have to check out an agent, go on their website, and send only what they require, plus a bit about yourself.

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Normally I'm a stickler for 'correct' grammar etc., but in this case I make an exception. Like Nigel I feel that it sounds much more relaxed to say "It's Berta," giggled Anne, rather than "It's Berta," said Anne with a giggle.

Stick a few expletives in and some snogging and I'm it will be a hit, regardless of the grammar. :wink:

Seriously, good luck with getting your stories published Julie.
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Don't forget, Julie, that Keith's books haven't been accepted by a publisher. He has gone down the self-publishing route. You write under your own style as Rob says. :D
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Katharine wrote:Normally I'm a stickler for 'correct' grammar etc., but in this case I make an exception. Like Nigel I feel that it sounds much more relaxed to say "It's Berta," giggled Anne, rather than "It's Berta," said Anne with a giggle.

Stick a few expletives in and some snogging and I'm it will be a hit, regardless of the grammar. :wink:
Expletives? Snogging?? We can't have THAT in Enid Blyton. :wink: :mrgreen:
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Courtenay wrote: Expletives? Snogging?? We can't have THAT in Enid Blyton.
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Split from 'What Enid Blyton book have you recently bought?'
IceMaiden wrote:
Fiona1986 wrote:Afforded is right, Ice Maiden but it has nothing to do with plurals. It's right because you were talking in the past tense.

I can't afford this/these.

I couldn't have afforded that/those.
Thanks Fiona :D. Now you've put it like that it looks right but when I wrote it it didn't seem to look or sound right, like when you come across something with 'gotten' or even worse, 'gotted' in it! I have seen a few 'I have gotted such and such' online :x
Well, gotten can be used sometimes. Ill-gotten gains springs to mind. Just as long as you don't start using jamp or should of, then we're all good :lol:
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